Hosted by Rydra, Squee, and Kelpsea. We discuss our day at the East Bay Anarchist Bookfair in Oakland, CA. We discuss tabling and presentations on mass shootings, self care for the damned, post-modernity, rojava, spiritual anarchy, and more. What the fuck is nihilism? Are we nihilists? Can you be a nihilist? Is self care destruction? Is destruction art? Is art inherently irrational? Rydra and Squee finally get into a disagreement, it is over Rydra making claims to being ahistorical and Squee says context matters!
Time Stamps: 0:00 We have business cards, we say hi to Kelpsea. Rydra did 30 minutes
of assembly line work with star wars legos. We have new T- shirts and
we have been releasing audiobooks, so check them out and record some
anarchist theory, fiction, communiques, whatever, and send it to us.
4:25 Rojava talk discussion
Discussion of the mass shooting talk from the East Bay Anarchist
Bookfair: rhetoric behind the shootings, anti-society, anti-
civilization?, what is the relevance of these(if any) to the anarchist
project. It seems like anarchists do not enjoy children being shot. How
does justice play into all of this? Why are anarchists outraged when
people cops aren't convicted. There seems to be a strong/loose relation
between nihilist and anti-social anarchist ideas and some of the ideas
espoused by some of the mass shooters, does this matter?
Discussion of "Self Care for the Damned": Is embracing immorality not
just another way to live morally? Squee attends despite a past history
of violence and attack by the presenters. He made it through unscathed.
19:36 are we nihilists? What does that even mean? What
does sexual perversion have to do with this? Rydra explains with help
from Sam Delany
23:00 Aesthetics are apparently the most
important and honest thing there is, so says Rydra. What do we want to
see, smell, hear, and taste, in our lives.
25:00 an argument against linear time! It doesn't exist?! Anarchy is now, in the moment? or is it?
because of civilization and society we are smoking cigarettes instead
of eating omelettes on the beach, what the fuck happened?
Discussion of "Insubordinate Care" by Crimethinc. Kelpsea posits that
self care has a potential for destruction, Squee and rydra tend to
agree. Squee and Rydra get personal and talk about their fucking
feelings, aren't you so glad?
31:20 discussion of fiber optics
cables being cut and the value in there being zero communiqués for
these actions. Is destruction art? Is it separable? Squee discusses
art again! Apparently it is a mix of the rational and the irrational.
The most interesting thing about the book fair was how bold people were
about where they smoked cigarettes. Rydra is full of resentment as
usual, and wants everyone else to have cancer. Some wingnutting.
Hydra says that the essence of nihilism is littering and Squee claims
that it is cluttering. Squee fears fire, and burning his house down.
37:30 We discuss Squee's presentation at the book fair, which was about post-modernity and the appeal of anarchy.
Rydra discusses his arguments on roofs with Canadians about the history
of rebellion and claims that he exists as an ahistorical entity!
Imagine you were a alive in a society with no available history or
people to discuss past rebellions, would you rebel? Would you know how
to? How much does the shit around us effect our own ideas and actions?
Rydra and Squee get into our first big disagreement over this, fight!
We get into another disagreement over how popular anarcho-communism is
currently. Squee is proven wrong, but that is biased because Rydra is
writing these timestamps!
47:45 We discuss and disagree about
where power lies. Squee claims that power is in data analysis and
marketing, Rydra understands this as who can read the matrix before. Is
money power? Rydra argues power is power, clearly a well thought out
49:45 Where does power lie? Is this a wing nut conversation or is it relevant? WHY ARE WE EVEN USING WORDS?
52:00 Rydra attacks Squee over his obsessive and creepy love for science!